Only thing that I know of that was illegal was when a very quietly homosexual JW, who was also a weatlthy farmer and landowner, adopted a pre-teenage "son" to live with him. He raised the boy as his own but used him as a sexual toy. The elders in the congregation were alerted to this (as the JW also had a live-in adult lover and news of their activities was somewhat common knowledge) but due to the amount of money this man controlled the elders swept it under the rug.
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JW foul play.
by avishai inwhat instances do you know of jw crime, particularly jw on jw or jw on xjw?.
i know of several instances.
my own po, elder grandfather ripped off tons of dubs.
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How?
by Lostreality inhow did you go from celebrating no holidays, to celebrating them?
what changes did you make in your household to accomodate this change?
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I feel left out at Christmas time because I didn't get any gifts as a child and it feels like I have a void in what should have been a safe, comfortable, normal childhood. It's like I'm going thru the motions w/o understanding it fully. With my three kids I usually shower them lots and lots of gifts and that's exciting but I find myself saying "bah-humbuh" alot. Thank god for hot tea and rum.
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A new spin on an old perible
by meggidon555 inone day a man was driving down a hiway and saw a car broke down.
he stops to help to help.
but it was a trap the robber beats him up leaves him for dead takes all his money and steals his car.. men while a christian drive by does nothing, a jew drives by nothing, a muslim ditto,.
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It all depends on whether the reader believes in Biblical mythology or not.
From the fundamental Christian viewpoint:
John 3:5: "Jesus answered, ?I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.'"
Mark 16:16 ?He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.?
JOHN 3:15 ?That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. -
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Threw Away My Last JC Penny's Suit Tonight...
by Confucious inkind of a milestone of sorts.
not that there is anything wrong with a jc penny's suit.
it's just that this was the "status quo" kind.
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My nutsack? They probably would have wanted to inspect it and I don't think I'd liked that scene! LOL
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How were you love-bombed??????????
by BLISSISIGNORANCE insome of the ways i was love-bombed were,sisters fussing over the kidsbrothers helping me move housetaking the kids at meetings and helping them look through the biblebeing invited to gatheringsalways having people talking to me after the meetingssisters dropping in through the day for visits (didn't know they counted time until i was baptized)being given thingsgetting soooooooo much attention, especially when the co visitedsisters offering to come to court with me (re.
divorce)having the co invited on my study wwwwooooo hhhoooooo.
all the above came to an abrupt end when i had the baby, lost weight and got baptized.. so how were you love bombed?.
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I must have hid under a rock because I didn't realize JW's love bombed prospective converts. But that's what happens when youre born into the LIE I guess.
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Threw Away My Last JC Penny's Suit Tonight...
by Confucious inkind of a milestone of sorts.
not that there is anything wrong with a jc penny's suit.
it's just that this was the "status quo" kind.
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I remember when the elders hauled me into the back room of the KH to counsel me on my oh-so worldly ear ring in my left ear, they reminded me that JW's don't follow fads or fashion trends. I reminded them that the suits they wore were similar in style to those of the big haired t.v. preachers. They didnt' like that idea and the conversation went down hill from there -- another story for another day -- but I chuckle when I think of the look on their faces when I dared throw out a rebuttal. Actually I rebutted everything they said, and threw in a few adult words to boot, in a snobbish tone and air which added to the hilarity of the scene.
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CAPITALISM: Do you know what it is? What is your opinion?
by Terry in.
i'll just let the question stand before i spout off.. i hear alot of people speak disparagingly about capitalism.. i'd like to hear your opinion before i give mine.. terry.
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BRAVO CZAR!!! You have done an excellent job explaining capitalism!!! My hat is off to you!
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What Your JW Relatives May Realize
by metatron inthere's a lot of hurting manifest on this board.
i've been there, with witness relatives and friends shunning me ( more or less).. as you encounter these people, it may be easiest to kindly remind them of the near future of jehovah's witnesses:.
in ten years, the average witness will be about the same as any other religion.. .
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Hey Danny, what are you REALLY trying to say ? LOL
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5 Jehovah's Witnesses Die in Plane Crash
by Kenneson ina report from zambia, africa relates that 6 persons died, including 5 believed to be jehovah's witnesses in a chartered plane crash near livingstone.
they had just toured victoria falls and were returning to lusaka, when the plane developed problems and crashed.
a zambian newspaper says it was an oil leak.
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5 Jehovah's Witnesses Die in Plane Crash
by Kenneson ina report from zambia, africa relates that 6 persons died, including 5 believed to be jehovah's witnesses in a chartered plane crash near livingstone.
they had just toured victoria falls and were returning to lusaka, when the plane developed problems and crashed.
a zambian newspaper says it was an oil leak.
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My point is simple: The WT is responsible for how many people's deaths due to the blood issue? And how many children have been molested? And how many families have been destroyed as a result of JW shunning? Millions? I don't the number. Honestly.
I wasn't relating the JW's to Nazis, what I was saying is this: If 5 neo-nazis died in a plane crash anyone on this board would be allowed and possibly congratulated for saying, "Yeah! The Nazis are dead!" However, since it's JW's we are speaking about, for someone to even infer that he/she is glad there are 5 less JW's in this world is somehow wrong. I realize we live in an insane politically correct society so no need to defend your reasoning, ok?
Like I stated earlier, I am not glad they are dead. Period. But I am glad that their influence will not be felt by anymore families. If my family had not been influenced by the JW's I would be living in a whole different world.
As far as racist remarks, if you will remember, in another post, an individual made vicious racist remarks about the white race. All I did was defend the white race. I did not tell him his race was evil like he did mine. Since when has it become wrong to defend the white race from racist remarks but okay to defend all non-white races from racist remarks?
My apologies to the German. May you go on in life umimpeded with your beliefs.